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Meeting of Feanor and Nerdadel by aautio Meeting of Feanor and Nerdadel by aautio
I REALLY wasn't supposed to have time for this right now, but it thought I'll finish up this sketch for JRRT's birthday (3rd January Ė obviously I'm late! :XD:)..

I apologize to everyone for not commenting or replying too much lately, I'm too busy right now with RealLifeô and will be for a couple of weeks still -- I will get back to all those messages when things cool down, promise!

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The First Meeting of FŽanor and Nerdadel

"While still in his early youth FŽanor wedded Nerdanel, a maiden of the Noldor; at which many wondered for she was not among the fairest of her people. But she was strong, and free of mind, and filled with the desire of knowledge. In her youth she loved to wander far from the dwellings of the Noldor, either beside the long shores of the Sea or in the hills; and thus she and FŽanor had met and were companions in many journeys."

(J. R. R. Tolkien: The Later Quenta Silmarillion (II) ß46c, Of FŽanor and the Unchaining of Melkor, HoME 10: Morgoth's Ring)


The first meeting of FŽanor and Nerdanel, two young travellers on a journey somewhere in Aman, sometime along the Noontide of Valinor..

Wacom tablet, about 7 hours.. still learning how to use the thing.

I've always found horses very difficult to draw and so I've avoided them usually. Now I thought I'd finally try and put the tips I got from ~vixentheangryfox (who has incredible talent for drawing horses! Thanks a lot for the advice! :)) to some use. I was lazy and didn't look for references so there are probably lots of mistakes.. The horse is kinda stick-legged and stiff and it still looks like a dog a bit (like my horses always do..:XD:). I've rarely even seen a live horse from close up so I don't know how their features and musculature are supposed to be.. and I've never ridden one, so I have absolutely no idea how all the equipment works or looks like Ė it's a good thing Elves donít' use any of those, so I drew just a saddle and some decoration. :)

I'm sure there's a lot of people here who could help me out, though.. I know the problems with the elves' anatomy here, but any horse-related tips are very welcome!
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ArwendeLuhtiene Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
One of my favourite Nerdanel renditions - Beautiful work!
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EmeraldKeefe Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012
I love the horse, mine look so damn ugly when I try to draw them. XD
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045-lucky Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010
I think the horse is good, and you might have heard this before, but if you make the ears slightly smaller and more leaf shaped then triangular and less furry too, it might help! apart from that I love the drawing.
Don't worry about the horse, you still draw then way better than I do!!! ( I hope the tip helps in future :) )
Feanor and Nerdanel :heart: *sigh*
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Nerwen20 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2010
FŽanor in love...

this is priceless ;)
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Kaytara Featured By Owner May 7, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lovely drawing, but I just noticed the expression of the horse... He looks rather distinctly bored with it all. XD
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Mrs-Haldir Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Cool :) One of those hidden stories The Silmarillion. I often wonder how a love formed between Fëanor and Nerdanel.
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Marco112112 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2009
man i love middle earth, sometimes i think about god coming to jrr tolkien when he almost died in the war and told him of the after life ( middle earth) and so he started writing about it but want aloud to tell anyone! lol, awsome peice by the way!
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Wicapi-wakan Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2007
I absolutely love Tolkien's stress on Nerdadel not being "among the fairest of her people"- it's kind of a rare thing for him and his female characters.

And it adds to a complex, interesting relationship between her and Feanor. I think that even though they became estranged, they must have loved each other very much....

And this drawing is awesome and inspired all that rambling!
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aautio Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2007
Thank you! :)

Yes, I think the story of FŽanor and Nerdanel is intriguing.. Their relationship was definitely something special.. the fact they had as many as seven sons should be proof enough! But FŽanor was always absolutely passionate about everything he set his mind on, wasn't he? ;)
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silverandgold06 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2006
Very nice! It is too bad their story ended with shuch pain...

The horse isn't bad, but its anatomy is a bit off. The head and neck look good, but its chest is too broad for a horse that size and its front legs are bending a little oddly. I hope I don't sound like I am ripping the drawing appart, because I'm not...I've just worked with horses for over 10 years so I can pick this stuff up.

I do love your work! And the stuff on Last Alliance is also lovely.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2006  Professional Traditional Artist
Your vision of the characters comes so close to my own it's almost uncanny. Especially Feanor. I love the whole design of everything, right down to the horse that doesn't need a bridle. :)
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2006
I've always imagined FŽanor with sharp features and i usually draw him with short hair. I wanted them both to look quite young here; i gave FŽanor longer hair and tried to make Nerdanel look lithe and active, kind of thin but athletic.. dancer type. Also, even if i don't feel like i've really changed my image of them in my mind, i'm still sure that your incredible Silmarillion illustrations must have had their influence on me! :D So that might explain the similarity too.. I really love the way you envision Tolkien's characters and some of them are indeed almost exactly like i've imagined them, FŽanor and Fingolfin especially. :)

Yes, i always figured the —oldor used saddles on their horses but no other equipment beside armour and decorational stuff, while the silvan elves didn't use anything.. which is all good, since i really don't know how to draw all those horse equipment (to be able to really draw something i usually need to understand how it works first -- the reason why i never was very good at drawing machines, robots and SciFi stuff! ;)).

Thank you again for your comment!
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elegaer Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2006
THis is just wonderful - its so rare I like any depiction of FŽanor, but I really like him here. Nerdanel looks great too!

LOL I have a huge pile of your pics in my dA list to comments on. I keep thinking that I'll wait till I get a quiet moment to really look at them and study them - but of course, I've had no quiet moments *sigh* And I've been thinking about your Big Project - I have some ideas I'll try and put into some sensible words!
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2006
Thanks, Becky. :) I figured a lot of people would like him with longer hair.. I've always pictured him with short hair but i though that he had loger hair in his youth when he was more rebellious and... ehh.. now wait a minute-- :XD:

Ah.. i know.. i have 60 deviations i'm planning to comment on waiting on my list and more coming each day! :ohmygod:

And about the project.. No need to rush it, since i'll be extremely busy until February 8th, i believe (make it February 9th.. on the 8th i'll have a hangover :XD:).
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elegaer Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2006
I always pictured FŽanor with long hair, but then again I do like Jenny's interpretation of him with short hair! Rebellious - long ... wait a minute - perhaps he cut off his long hair just when leaving Aman as another act of rebellion and burning it in the fires of the swan boats. How's that for inventiveness!
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2006
Good idea! :nod: I always figured he kept his hair quite short so that it would be practical when travelling and not get in the way when he was working, but he could let it grow longer at times if he wanted.. in my opinion short hair just fits his style better. I actually thought that he cut his hair himself when grieving for his dead father (you know, elves can't tear at their beard like biblical people did.. there's got to be a substitute! :D ripping their robes and pouring ash on their heads is not enough! :XD:).. that's why in the Oath pic i drew his hair very short and somewhat messy compared to the Threat pic for example.. Then again in a WIP sketch that i have made of his death scene i made his hair again a bit longer like in here.. he had stopped thinking about such matters, being consumed by his lust for vengeange..
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lilie-morhiril Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2006   Traditional Artist
wow!
very beautifull!! I love everything in this your drawing....but expecially the horse!** IT'S WONDERFULL!!**
It's the same that I said you about dragon...I think that horse are difficult to drawing^^'...and you did a wonderfull work!**
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2006
Thanks, Lilie. I think horses are difficult too.. this was done to try to learn to draw one better.. already i got some constructive criticism, which is good.. :)
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lilie-morhiril Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2006   Traditional Artist
eheh good!^^
oh you are welcome!^^
uhm, I have to learn to draw hourses!>__< they are important in fantasy illustrations >__<.....oh, I've started to draw some dragons ahahahahah....slowly slowly I'll learn to draw dragon and horse^^
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2006
This one was unreferenced, but I looked for references and studied a lot of horse pictures for my second attempt (Fingon's horse) and i think it looks already much better! :) Dragon photos are a bit harder to come by, though! :XD: But.. Practice, practice, practice is all it takes in the end! :D
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lilie-morhiril Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2006   Traditional Artist
yeaahh!!!
ahahah I'm coping dragon for my drawing from Kojima's illustrations (a very great japanese illustrator**)
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Swimmingpool Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
I like the clothing, gestures and the characters themselves are well portrayed. However, I don't think that at this point FŽanor had made the Silmarils (shining on his brow) and before the unchaining of Melkor, the Elves did not carry weapons.
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
Thank you. And good observations -- you know your Tolkien! :salute: That's not supposed to be a Silmaril, though -- just some other shiny elven gem (like in the Threat of FŽanor illustration). I always imagined FŽanor being really fond of jewelry and always wearing some trinkets (Oops, i hope he didn't hear that.. :paranoid:).

True, the Elves in Aman did not make weapons of war, like swords, before the Unrest. But the unstrung bows in their packs here are just for hunting purposes.. they're on a long journey and they've got to eat something besides fruit and rations, aye? :) And the hunting knife that FŽanor carries is also a "traveller's multipurpose tool" -- You know: never leave home without it! ;) Everyone carried a knife for eating purposes anyway, and many kinds of bladed tools were in existence. So these here are not carried as weapons but more like utensils.
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Swimmingpool Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2006
Good explanation. I just thought that knife looked quite dagger-like. I thought the jewels were supposed to be Silmarils because they are giving out light of their own. I think there's also a part of my own image of FŽanor as being less materialistic in his early life. You know your Tolkien better than I do - what happened to Nernadel after she bore their seven sons? After that point she sort of drops out of the story of the Silmarillion.
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2006
Not much is told, except: Nerdanel was a sculptor and created many statues (of the Valar and people she knew) that were so lifelike that others might speak to them. FŽanor and Nerdanel raised their sons together (or imagine she did mostly while FŽanor was working) and they lived together but later they started to have differences of opinion; Nerdanel never listened to Melkor's lies and wans't happy with how FŽanor changed.. he became proud and started to have these ideas about rebellion and when she couldn't change his mind they became estranged. She had already moved back to her father's house near Aule's halls before FŽanor's banishment to Formenos. When FŽanor was going to lead the —oldor away she went to him and asked him to leave her at least the twins. FŽanor would not and she was angered and told him one of them would not reach Middle-Earth (indeed, Amrod was accidentally burned alive in one of the ships in Losgar.. but CJRT left this out of the published Silmarillion).
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Swimmingpool Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2006
Thanks for the info... which leads me onto the question. Why is it that Amrod and Amras play no part in the wars against Morgoth in the Silmarillion. They just seem to vanish into the hills near Ossiriand to play the hunter.
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2006
Well, they don't have a major role.. Their lands were desolated during the Bragollach, and they took refuge among the green-elves of Ossiriand along with Caranthir. Apparently there they and the remainder of their people remained. And i recall that in some early narrative (can't rember which, probably the first Quenta from the '30s or the first Annals of Beleriand), when they're still called Damrod and DŪriel, they were the ones who insisted on the attack on the havens at the mouths of Sirion, where they were killed and Maedhros and Maglor "were there, but were sick of heart" or something like that.. doesn't differ much from the published Silmarillion though. But Tolkien meant that indeed that Amrod the younger (or properly Umbarto, "Fated" as Nerdanel prophetically named him -- She first named them both Ambarussa because of their red hair, and FŽanor asked her to give the other a different name) should die at the burning of the ships. This information is from the Shibboleth of FŽanor, and never entered any of the full narratives that were all written earlier, but Tolkien was going to make this change to them. Christopher Tolkien didn't include this in the published Silmarillion, calling it 'impossible to do' at which i wonder since the change would have been rather small and easy.. especially considering he was willing to make more drastic changes and editorial additions, including even outright errors -- like Gil-Galad as Fingon's son. :roll:
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Swimmingpool Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2006
Way to lead me on! who is Gil-galad's real father?
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2006
Hehe.. :XD: This is really complicated.. and it's not entirely clear, but..
Short answer: According to the most likely story: Orodreth (who in turn was the son of Angrod and thus Finrod's nephew, not brother).
Long answer: later..
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Verwildert Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
O_O It looks to me like you've gotten the tablet down.... as for the horse, the breast needs to be more.. apparent, and the front legs closer together. Maybe I should get you a horse book, so you can study horsey pictures. ;p
I really like Nerdanel's clothes. They look so comfy. :D
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
Thanks, Lissu. :D And thanks for the comment, i'll try to pay more attention to the front legs, then. And a horse book, eh? Now that would a brilliant idea -- That way i could study horses without actually going near one.. you know, they're quite big and scary! ;) Hahaha

Thanks. I was thinking of practical and durable travel clothing for them both when drawing this.
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Letenastare Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
I love this pic' :tears:
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
:) Thanks!
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Succubus1982 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
AAww thats nice. One of Feanor's tender moments. And Nerdanel looks like a spunky young thing lol. Such a pity they never lasted.
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
Thanks! Yeah, i figured as FŽanor is so often portrayed as the bad guy he'd deserve a more happy moment for a change. :) True, a pity.. FŽanor should have listened more to her counsel than the whispers that Melkor had devised. But they were both strong individuals, travellers and artists.. and they had seven sons! That's quite a handful for any marriage! :XD:
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scars-and-stripes Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2006
Mmmm... I love the clothing! And the hands, curse hands... All in all, very nice... verrry nice!
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
Thanks! :D Hands can be really difficult at times.. but i like drawing them. You can express a lot with hands and gestures so they are important. Sometimes i get them right in one go with a quick sketch and sometimes they need more work.. like here, i'm still not completely happy with these, but they'll do. I just don't have the patience to work on them forever. ;)
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scars-and-stripes Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
me neither... I do try, though. I tend to draw portraits (which is a bad habit) rather than full body pictures. I need to practice more full pictures.
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Ahrihliir Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2006
The horse looks fairly decent, for someone who doesn't often draw them. The main problem with the horse is that the forelegs are too far apart. Also, the girth (the strap thingy that goes under the belly and holds the saddle on) goes right next to the elbow. I think that's the most common mistake non-horse people make, is putting the girth in the middle of the belly.

I love the way you did Feanor!! Wish I had an outfit like that...
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
Thank you! :) Ok, i think i really need to go get some references.. and this just shows how little i know of all the necessary equpment too. This is exactly the kind of comment i was hoping for -- i figured i'd just go ahead and draw a horse and there will be people who point out my mistakes and i'll learn -- thanks!

I think their clothes would be practical travel clothes but FŽanor's would still be quite elaborate. :)
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Natty441 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2006
Wow. I love the detail.
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aautio Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2006
Thank you!
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