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Sketch:Helmets of Gondolindrim by aautio Sketch:Helmets of Gondolindrim by aautio
Ok.. So i said i got the helmets out of my system, didn't i? I guess i lied, then. :XD: Thanks to ~Sirielle i ended up drawing more.. Lets see when i'll actually use these as a part of some illustration.

The Fall of Gondolin is quite a special case and i was going to postpone doing illustrations of that for some time.. i've got so many ideas i want to do before that. But it never hurts to do some planning before you start. So here are some helmet designs for different regiments of Gondolin based on how they're described in "Of Tuor and His Coming to Gondolin" and "The Fall of Gondolin" from the Book of Lost Tales I & II. A detailed "up-to-date" version of the Fall doesn't exist so we don't know how Tolkien finally intended to describe these events. Anyway, here i've shown designs for some specific groups.. most others would be variants of these with different colours and insignia. 2B pencil.

More helmet studies in scraps: [link] [link] [link]
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Ellosse Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Beautiful! I like Tuor's and Ecthelion's helmets best. 
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saito20 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome work! May I use some of these ideas to make an illustration?
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xzalion Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2010
Hi,

How do you great those amazing Background textures? Can you do some work like that for me?

I have an RPG In Mind That i want to make? Let me know. Here is my Mail. southafricaboerwars@yahoo.com

Best of Regards
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elegaer Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2006
Yay for helmets!

Just a few more notes for you for future helmets! Mole helmets were round, and the Heavenly Arch helmets had opals of huge size were set into them (sounds useful in battle :o)

Love Tuor's Wing helmet - its fabulous!
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mindofka Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2005
yes! yes! Absoltely great study, you're making yourself a great portfolio for character design, and this is so precise and understandable as it has to be :clap:
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aautio Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2005
Thanks again! :hug: I think i'm starting to have that helmet design worked out by now.. :)
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Sirielle Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2005   Digital Artist
Yay :w00t: the People of the Fountain got the helmets with the peak I was thinking of while telling of old German helmets. Fantastic designs :thumbsup:

Uh, I have no time now, arrrgh. Job. Who needs job? the need to eat is bad idea :/
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aautio Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2005
Yes, i wondered if that was what you meant. :) I also felt the spike suited them, since Ecthelion their lord had on his helmet that diamond-tipped spike he drove into Gothmog's breast..

Yeah, damn work.. taking time from fun stuff. How's the new job, btw?
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Sirielle Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2005   Digital Artist
Oh, I haven't red The Fall of Gondolin yet, though I have red a fan fic about Ectehelion's death - very straight with canon, just Glorfindel is narrator. I have bought HoME 2 just for this passage, but had no patience to read it, yet. My English still needs improvement for it.
Are you going to do Eglamoth's helmet, too? A friend from fandom asked about him after seeing your designs :)
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aautio Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2005
The Fall of Gondolin is interesting, even though it's an old story that is not really "up-to-date" since the design of the whole mythology and the world was changed later in several ways.. like there are still the "old model" balrogs in it and the names have naturally evolved a lot later. But since Tolkien never rewrote it i believe he intended the outline of the main events to stay pretty much the same.

Hmm.. i wasn't planning to but let's see.. Elgamoth's helm would be an archer's helm, except it's a tall model with high feather plumes and a huge opal.. and a lot of gemstones.. well, i guess i should draw it too. :ohmygod:
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Sirielle Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2005   Digital Artist
Great :floating:

I know of hordes of balrogs during the fall of Gondolin, but I think the same - the main events would stay. Though I wonder if elves would be able to kill any of the balrogs in encoutner 1 vs 1, like Ecthelion contra Gothmog (FŽanor, Maedhros, Fingon - they didn't make it!) or Glorfindel (um, but does he exactly kill the beast or the beast dies because of the fall?). Later 'upgraded' Glorfindel comes back to ME and the ringwraiths fear him. Would he kill the last Balrog from Moria if he met him? :devilish:
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aautio Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2005
The original balrogs were something like demonic warriors and horsemen and there were about 1000 of them.. they were not quite as big and scary as the "no more than 7" archdevils that Tolkien later turned them into. Still, i think that in the Fall of Gondolin it's told that no man or elf had ever before that battle (where dozens were killed) managed to slay a single balrog.. So i guess even the old "wimpy" versions were still quite tough. And Ecthelion only managed to kill Gothmog (who was probably supposed to be a lot tougher anyway since he was originally the son of Morgoth.. :roll:) by self-sacrifice. The same goes for Glorfindel (i believe it was eventually killed by the fall, but Glorfindel must have dragged him down and wounded it severly enough to keep it from being able to fly..) And i think he would have had very slim chances against the balrog of Moria 1 on 1. Not even Gandalf survived the encounter.. and i guess he too would have been quite screwed had he not had Narya!
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Sirielle Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2005   Digital Artist
Gothmog was originally son of Morgoth!? Crazy ;) For sure it must have been changed, Valar had nop kids later (Eonwe was preoviusly son of Vala and probably all the Maiar).
Balrgos and flying is open question, never ending discussions if they could fly or not... Perhaps they could rather jump for longer distances than fly?

Self-sacrifice, I've forgotten about it.
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aautio Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2005
Yes, son of Morgoth.. :D Tolkien changed many fundamental things about the whole mythology since then, like the fact that Valar could have kids and the nature of the balrogs.. I don't actually know at which point the story about Glorfindel's battle with the balrog was written so i don't know if it was still the old kind that couldn't fly or the new kind.. I'm aware that the issue has been debated, but since it's quite clearly written that the "new" (since the writing of the Fellowship) balrogs had wings and did fly (though they were undoubtedly very clumsy flyers), i believe the most confusion arises from the fact that some (or rather: most) passages of the Silmarillion are based on the old Quenta Silmarillion where the "old" type still existed. Had Tolkien finally re-written those events, he might have changed them in some ways.. but we will never know and we'll just have to be content with Christopher's (sometimes confusing) interpretations.

And yeah, self-sacrifice.. I think balrogs were not really impossible to kill, but still quite overpowering against even the mightiest elf warriors 1 on 1.. i actually believe Fingon gave Gothmog a lot of trouble and who knows which one would have won without that cowardly strike from behind by the other balrog.. But Ecthelion was gravely wounded already when he leaped in to save Tuor and Gothmog was just going to finish him off.. so it was his valour and sacrifice that eventually made it possible for him to kill Gothmog rather than his strength in arms (his both hands were wounded and he couldn't use them so he just leaped full on Gothmog, impaled him upon the spike of his helmet and dragged him down the icy depths of the King's Fountain with himself.. In the end it was the fountain that killed the fire of Gothmog's being.. I imagine Glorfindel might have done something similar, like pushing the balrog over the cliff and hewing off part of it's wing to make it fall or something.. Or maybe it was the other way around and he actually killed the demon, but the dying balrog then used it's final strength to drag him down into the abyss.. who knows?
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Sirielle Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2005   Digital Artist
Not that bad, actually I have not stated duties and sometimes I have nothing to do, which is irritating. I could be there 4 hours and do the same, but I have to be there 8... I don't think I'll stay there long, it's job rather for sellers. We'll see :)
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aautio Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2005
I see.. well, let's hope it turns better or that you will find something more interesting.
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Sirielle Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2005   Digital Artist
Probably the later ;)
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Succubus1982 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Augh! Okay and now it did post :blushes:
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aautio Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2005
Heh.. yeah, dA was acting up for me too last night when i tried to comment.
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Succubus1982 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm and it seems DA doesn't want to post my comments today. Oh well. Insta-fave. I love it. Especially the one of the Folk of the White Wing and also the Guards of the Gate of Writhen Iron.
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aautio Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2005
Thanks. Pretty much the only ones that i found any description for are the White Wing (shape of wings on their helmets), the Mole (round steel caps covered with black moleskin) and the guardians of the Gate of Writhen Iron (black helmets with visors in the shape of an eagle's beak).. even those are not very specific, but it's clear that they stand out from the rest. The archers of the gold gate had feathers on their helmet so i thought the other archer regiments would too.. and Ecthelion had a steel spike topped with a diamond, so i figured the rest of the People of the Fountain would have a spike as well.
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Succubus1982 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:jawdrop: Yeek! Wordless! Insta-fave! Augh!
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